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John E. Johnson, Jr.

Are you going to install speakers in your walls or keep them out in the room?

Certainly the trend these days is for home theater speakers to be installed in walls, at least by custom installers. And now that "Height Channel" speakers are being introduced, it is even more likely that someone's new home theater will have in-wall speakers. But, In-Walls have their problems, including loading from the wall that serves as the baffle, resonance from inside the wall, and limitations on size due to the studs. For myself, I continue to prefer my speakers on the floor in the room. I can continually tweak their position, and I just like the look of the symmetry that speakers arranged around me provides.

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I am with you on this 100%. I like to see them { that might have something to do with my new hobby building my own speakers.} But I can not imagine the wall speaker sounding as good as a floor speaker if they are both of the same quality.
That's all I know Thank You
cuggie

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Especially subwoofers. They need a lot of space.

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Speakers in my walls...........That's never, ever going to happen!

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I think audiophiles in general would not put speakers in the wall for a serious home theater. Maybe in the den, with a 52" LCD HDTV on the wall, in-wall speakers next to the display would be fine. But in the home theater where you sit back to get a real movie experience, on the floor speakers are the only thing that can really deliver. My main front left right speakers are more than 6 feet high and I use four 18" subwoofers. I can't get that experience from anything inside a wall.

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The den, either. As a matter of fact, one would be better served to throw all of their money into a dynamite home theater and place two high end monitors with a sub in the den run off of the second zone of the theater pre-pro. Now I can understand a family room where a WAF may be a problem. However, with a dedicated home theater in place, I would prefer to use the speakers on the TV before resorting to in-wall speakers. Let the wife have her pristine, french proventional family room. You would still have a man cave and a two channel listening room while she watches the chick channels in the family room. In closing: No in-walls. Waste of money. In-ceiling speakers are even worse! Unless, of course, you want the illusion of your movies being narrated by the "voice of God." In-ceiling speakers: A bigger waste of money.

John E. Johnson, Jr. said:
I think audiophiles in general would not put speakers in the wall for a serious home theater. Maybe in the den, with a 52" LCD HDTV on the wall, in-wall speakers next to the display would be fine. But in the home theater where you sit back to get a real movie experience, on the floor speakers are the only thing that can really deliver. My main front left right speakers are more than 6 feet high and I use four 18" subwoofers. I can't get that experience from anything inside a wall.

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I certainly used to see the point of people saying in-walls are a waste of money. Now, picture my twins going after your Revel Ultima Salon 2's with nothing more menacing than a piece of sand paper or maybe a brillo pad that accidentally fell from the sink... My point is, different people have different situations, two years ago I wouldn't have considered it, right now its sounding like a better and better idea asI don't want my stuff trashed, definately for a non-dedicated family room. Save the Revel Ultima Salon's for the deadbolt locking basement theater. I'm actually shopping right now for a setup to replace my stand mounted Paradigm monitors, but I have built-ins on that wall so inwalls aren't an option.

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Bill here....
I have for sale on AudioGon a pair of Atlantic Technology in-walls. I had myself convinced that to save space, have a clean look, and to achieve adequate performance for surrounds that they would do fine. This is probably true. While they were in transit, i re-thought things. I decided that I could not reasonably control the wall cavities as both are completely different in my basement room. I also thought about the size of the holes I would need to install and the placement around ductwork. I just received my Axiom QS-8's yesterday, and installed them in about 15 minutes!

My experience...
Bill

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Definitely in the living room, not the theater.

Bill Goodwin said:
Bill here....
I have for sale on AudioGon a pair of Atlantic Technology in-walls. I had myself convinced that to save space, have a clean look, and to achieve adequate performance for surrounds that they would do fine. This is probably true. While they were in transit, i re-thought things. I decided that I could not reasonably control the wall cavities as both are completely different in my basement room. I also thought about the size of the holes I would need to install and the placement around ductwork. I just received my Axiom QS-8's yesterday, and installed them in about 15 minutes!

My experience...
Bill

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I wouldn't consider in walls. Besides sound limitations, part of the enjoyment is the ability to admire what my speakers look like.

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I wouldn't use in-wall for a listening room but they work great for home theater surrounds. The main issue I see is most people spend a lot more money on cabinet speakers than an equivalent in-wall. I use Snell 3-way speakers and they outperform most small monitors I've heard. I don't have enough room for full towers as surrounds. It also gave me the most listening distance from the surrounds which makes them blend better with the overall system.

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Not only do my professionally installed Def-Tec inwalls sound great both dynamically and imaging wise, because of Audysey equalization with dual floor located subwoofers, I can have the best of both arrangements. Correct room design and geometric location of each channel also is critical. The secondary, but important benefit is floor clean space, no visible wiring and less cobwebs and dusting. Quality inwalls have diecast aluminum enclosures unaffected by the wall cavity. New technologies improve the products continuously. Bang for the buck is the bonus.

Jim Woolf

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I'm considering installing inwalls (including subs) in my 2-channel room as a back up. I certainly don't have the space for more speakers but with my constant turnaround of equipment and speakers, I'd like to have something permanent, stricktly surround for movies.

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